When things are investigated, knowledge is extended. When knowledge is extended, the will becomes sincere. When the will is sincere, the mind is correct. When the mind is correct, the self is cultivated. -- Confucius
Politically correct ideals are garbage: true wisdom comes from decades of deep thought and neutral observation. Only a so-called sociopath could ascertain wisdom from this crazy world in a neutral way. Cool thoughts- uncorrupted by modern politics, social norms, or societal ideals- are required for wisdom. Questioning everything, and going against the grain on all universally accepted norms is the path to true intelligence. The Gods notice this.

3/27/09

How To Fix Dually Brakes

I have just finished the process of repairing my rear brakes on a C-30 Chevy truck. It has dually wheels and I have never worked on something like this before, so I sought out advice online before starting. There are many articles, mostly on mechanics' forums and blogs. I thought I had obtained some pretty good advice, but was ill-prepared in the end.

Therefore I am going to add a few helpful hints to the net, to facilitate other first timers. Though it sounds obvious, remember there is a reason jack stands are always recommended- jacks can tip over! Especially bottle jacks, so use a trolley jack with large jack stands while chocking the other wheels...

"Remove axle" means you need to get a 3 foot long pipe to put over a 1/2" breaker bar in order to break the hub bolts loose. Then after removing them, 'simply' pull out the inner floating axle.

After taking off both wheels on one side, and pulling out the axle, "remove brake drum". Now the fun begins. (I hope by now you have placed a large jack stand under the outer axle...and even these can tip over so make sure they are on level solid ground!!!) In order to remove the brake drum, you will first pull on it with all your strength. Then you will beat it with a 5 pound hammer- a sledgehammer is too big because of the fear of cracking it: these drums cost 165.00 apiece! Next, the inevitable curse-fest and hurling of insults toward GM engineers. Now, search for extra large drum pullers. Even tool stores don't have them, but a few can be found online that are big enough...for a few c-notes. So forget that. Searching online for tips is next. Wiki-How is good. There you will learn that there is a nut to remove in there. How were you supposed to know if it is not even visible? Regardless, go ahead and go through lots of trouble to dig out your biggest sockets in preparation for this massive spindle nut. Next, clean off the old gear oil and look at the nut. It ain't a spindle nut at all. It is a castle nut. So just pop off the c-clip over it, then pull out the key with a pair of needle nose, and it turns right off with a screwdriver.

Now, the freaking drum will pull off..Interesting, indeed. In my case, the shoes were worn down to nothing and were bare metal. The emergency brake bar had fallen out and bent in half somehow. The shoe retainer springs were bent. The cylinder seals were cracked and popped off, leaking fluid. Brake dust was piled over an inch high on top of stuff.

So, next, you need to clean everything off with carburetor spray and paper towels.(Brake cleaner spray is really just marked up carb spray.) You will end up needing about six cans of spray and four rolls of towels. Spray out the two bearings as well in the drum. Do not set the drum in the yard, or grass and rocks will get into the bearings which will have to be picked out with needle nosed pliers. Trust me on that. The only way to repack them without removing them is to get a grease gun and shoot it directly into the bearing, several times to expel the old grease and make sure it is full. If your other 3 grease guns are stored in a trailer 90 miles away, you will need to buy a new one to do this. Use the grease labeled for 'industrial and mining operations'. With cheap brands, you have to overdo things a little to ensure it will work right.

Set the drum aside- being careful not to cramp your back lifting the 80 pound motha. Now, "remove old brake shoes". This means grabbing the springs with vice grips and unhooking them all, then, about a half hour later, the shoes will be off. Lay out the springs how they came off, so you will know later how to put them back on. Then you will kick them sooner or later, and it will become a guessing game. Such is brakes. (update on 1/26/10: since most people incl. myself do not take a before picture of their brakes, I have done it for you. taken after all was completed and where it should be. see below). It is wise to place all parts inside a ziploc bag, to avoid losing any. If you lose even one, you will have to buy a new spring kit.

The brilliant GM engineers designed a backing plate a full 1/2 inch from the leaf springs behind it, so it has to come off to remove the cylinder. There are four bolts that hold it on. Next is the brake line. Undo it with a lot of PB spray and a 3/8 line wrench. It will still strip, but by using the spray and a line wrench you will feel good knowing it is not your fault...Ditto for the bolts holding on the wheel cylinder. I stripped the head on one, and had to chisel the head off of another. New cylinders do not come with bolts for some stupidass reason, so the quest now begins to find new ones.

Parts stores sell them, but at least one chain does not like to help you find them. Suggesting going to a hardware store is a lazy way out for the incompetent counter attendant. But I won't be spiteful and say the name of this store, which rhymes with o'smileys...Anyway, other parts stores will find the exact replacement bolts for you, so try that first before checking every hardware store in town like I did.

If your screw adjusters have their teeth worn down to nothing, make sure you specify when you order new ones that they are left and right: counter attendants- especially at o'smileys- will not think of that and order two right ones. Then you will have to go back later after they have ordered a left one. Don't take any lip from them either, and let them say they are the same part. They move in opposite directions and the right one has left-hand threads. This is true regardless of the manager's claims. Place a glob of bearing grease inside the head and onto the threads of the new adjusters before installing. Some use lithium grease (the white stuff) but it dries out.

Once the cylinder is bolted back onto the plate, and the line is attached, you will have to reattach the plate to the outer axle and put the new shoes and springs on. It is easiest to attach line to cylinder, cylinder to plate, and plate to hub- in that order. Then, attach line to its junction block. Trust me on this. After all is well, the drum must be replaced before you can bleed them. We all know how to bleed brakes I suppose, but on these trucks there is a catch: accessing the bleeder valve. There is 1/2" of clearance between the backing plate and the leaf springs. Your fingers can get caught in there (and it hurts). A 3/8 ratchet or breaker bar will not fit. A 1/4" ratchet is no good because you can't reach in to switch the direction lever on it. A 1/4" flex bar is required, with a small 1/4" pipe to go over the handle for length. This is the only way to move the bleeder back and forth. When finished (after dozens of bleeds), good luck getting your tools out of there. Or, just leave them and start with new ones on the other side. (Someday they will vibrate off and someone will find them on the road. It may make a teenage boy's day, or a young girl might use them to punish her barbies with...) Another way is to just open the valve and let the fluid run out awhile, keeping the master cylinder refilled. This extrudes most air from the line, but is not as good as actual forced bleeding by pressing the brake pedal. The one-man bleeder kits you can buy are notorious for falling apart, but you can make your own easily. It is sturdier and cheaper to use an plastic jar like from peanut butter and make two holes in the lid. Fill the jar about 1/3 with clean fluid. Run a clear vinyl hose (hardware stores sell them for a few cents per foot) into the fluid and then over the opened bleeder valve. Press brake pedal until no bubbles are seen going through tube. The trick is getting the exact size of tubing to go over your valves.

After bleeding, the tires can be put back on. Remember to re-insert the axle too, and seal the bolts/cap to it. You must tighten the hub bolts with the tire off the ground, or it will not line up right and at least one will strip out. Then you will need to buy a replacement bolt with washers, which will prevent the rims from passing over it. Just guessing on this (maybe).

If you decide to change the differential fluid too, here is one more tip: all of the web pages say to use a funnel. They do not mention that gear oil is nearly as thick as honey, and requires a special type funnel (one with hose, on/off twisty valve, and tube). Cut the factory tube off the top of the differential and attach funnel hose with a small hose clamp. Jam funnel into position against vehicle floor then open valve to drain it. It will take about an hour per quart to drain from the funnel into the differential fill tube. At 3.5 quarts capacity, this is an all day task.

After all this, you will be glad you are done, despite the idiots at the parts stores and the special difficulties with these kinds of trucks. But there is one more thing.

Now, repeat on other side........
 


 

some final, random tips:
top blue spring does not hook onto top pin, but onto adjuster arm wire. make sure the e-brake crossbar has its square spring on the right way- these do not come in kits and have to be bought at dealers or junkyards. taller, black shoe retainer spring goes to front shoe/short blue one to rear. clean inner drum surface thoroughly with wire brush and spray. be careful to put thicker shoe to rear and smaller one to front.this is a very good time to repack bearings with new grease- there are two in each drum. see addendum below on this.



UPDATE!

Note original date of this post. Now, on 1/26/10, I am updating this as the job is finally, truly done. All of this time I have been refixing /waiting on weather to warm up/redoing/etc. They kept locking up. They would work fine for a ways, grab, lock up. Either side at random and independently.

Posting questions about this on Yahoo Answers was an exercise in futility. Several mechanics with many years experience offered tips of all sorts. They meant well, but no one was correct. I took it apart again.

The new shoes, with barely 200 miles on them, were worn halfway down and cracking. I got new ones from a different parts store. Not 130. Wagners, but not generics either. While replacing them, I bent a spring and had to get a new spring kit. That was when I learned that the other new spring kit from the other store  (o'smiley's again) was crap. The shoe retainer springs were all four the same- that's funny- the ones I had now had different ones for the front and back shoes. What else could be wrong, tension maybe, who knows? So with the new shoes (American) and the new springs (American) it all went together fairly easily.

I have taken pics and added them along with a few tips for anyone needing help. 

My brakes work fine now and no longer lock up.

Buy domestic.

Addendum:
Do not use cheapy grease!!! Generic or cheapo bearing grease will break down in less than a year and turn into a watery goop that will get on everyhting inside the drum, and can even ruin the brake shoe linings. Pics below are of the mess made inside a G30 van drum that had bearing repacked with super tech red grease.







--these tips work on all Chevy one-ton drums and brake systems, such as C30 trucks, G30 vans, 3500s, and others--


(c) james platt, both article and pictures. ask for repost permission.

3/11/09

FEMA Coffins

For once, I am not going to put any links into an article. This is because anyone that would bother to check any of them would be able to easily verify what I am saying a hundred different ways anyway. Use google.

I finally had to say something about the newest conspiracy theory. It bothers me because I witnessed its beginning. I tried, but was unable to get anyone to listen to reason. Trust me, I am not a big fan of the government. They screw up enough on their own without people adding on outrageous claims to make them sound even scarier than they already are.

Last July a video and article appeared on infowars.com. It was about a shaky video of a bunch of plastic coffins stacked in a field. The field was a couple miles from the Hartsfield-Jackson Intl. Airport. Well, Atlanta is where the CDC is based, so anything in the Atlanta metro area must have something to do with the CDC! And anyone who has been there knows how enormous the Atlanta metro area is, and therefore how absurd that last sentence is.

But of course, Alex Jones and his run-for-the-hills style made it into a huge what-if scenario, pushing the buttons of his paranoid readers. They freaked. In the comments section for that first article, I offered to go check it out, because at the time I lived there. No one would say where it was exactly for awhile though. Then it was finally revealed to be next to a concrete company near the airport. After this everyone really let loose: 'they are using the airport to transport them all over the country after they kill the citizens!', and similar cries.

A few readers looked into it, contacting the company that makes these coffins and asking them about it. It seems they were storing them there, because people buy them before they die. They are personalized with a brass nameplate, and held until the time comes. These plastic 'coffins', actually burial vaults that a coffin would go into, are much cheaper and simpler than concrete vaults. The number of people dying yearly in this country, and the number buying and reserving these vaults, is enormous. So they stacked them. An expensive facility is not needed because they are weatherproof and it is unlikely anyone would steal such a thing. What is disturbing though, is that all this was posted into the comments section. Most readers ignored it.

I kept trying to make people think about how silly this all was. For example, I detailed how the CDC is actually in the suburb of Chamblee, on the opposite end of the metro from the airport. It has a huge walled in complex and is also barely a mile from another large airport- the Peachtree-Dekalb. So why in the world would they store these coffins across the city by another airport, when they could put them in their compound or at least by the closer airport? Maybe because the CDC does not own them!!! Because everything in Atlanta and its suburbs does not belong to one govt. agency that happens to be based there! And I posted these observations. No one listened.

But one day someone posted a paranoid rant and included a reference to 'these FEMA coffins...' . And so it began. Now, there is a huge conspiracy theory about the "FEMA coffins" 'in' Atlanta, and what the govt. is going to do with them. Estimates range from 10,000 to a million. Most people guess half a million. But then, a few claim it proves 'the CDC's plan to kill 90% of the population', after which they will place all the bodies in these "FEMA coffins"! At around 300 million people, 90% would be about 270 million coffins needed. So where are the other 269 fields with 'a million' coffins in them? Can you see an emergence of paranoia yet?

Now, there are 67 youtube videos with 'fema coffins' in the title, last I looked anyway. That is not including the related videos, or ones with different titles but same subject matter.

I ask the coffin-mongers: where are the rest of the coffins? where will they bury so many coffins? with what equipment? why not dump the bodies in a swamp (oh I forgot- FEMA already dumped 2,000 people in a swamp that they shot in the head, right after Katrina. but that's a different conspiracy...) ? And lastly, why don't you verify anything, or consider outside sources- like the 'coffin' company, or even your common sense?

It is worth pondering, in the spirit of open-mindedness: what if these burial vaults really did belong to FEMA or the CDC? You would think it would be easier and cheaper to stockpile body bags, and in a hidden spot such as inside the CDC compound, the huge army base (Ft. McPherson) right by the intl. airport, or somewhere besides an open field, but whatever. Supposing the vaults are govt. owned- so what? What if there was a disease outbreak and they wanted some on hand? Who knows. If the officials in charge of this were careless enough to stash them in an open field near a large international airport in a major metro area, then I doubt their plan to make use of them will be very well concealed either. So don't worry.

After all, there are Amtrak trains retrofitted with guillotines ordered from Japan, remember? (Who needs bullets when you can just behead people, and why make your our own guillotines when Japan sells them?) Oh yes, and the box cars with shackles welded into them (no need to lock the train car doors- just weld shackles in- it is simpler somehow). Worry about these older conspiracies first before taking on yet another completely nonsensical and unprovable hype-fest. And one more thing: if you really believe these horrific fantasies, then please click on this article's title.

UPDATE, 12/21/2010 :
Due to the cancerous spread of this lie on the net, I am now offering a challenge to the cretins who perpetuate this lie. If you prove to me that it is true, I will delete this post and repost the other view. Proving it to me will require the following:
1. proof that the vault replacement grave liners are really just coffins,
2. proof that the company who makes and owns them is either under contract with fema or is owned by the federal govt.,
3. proof that there is a plan to use them in a mass operation,
4. an explanation of why they are 'hidden' in an open field instead of in the nearby army base,
5. evidence of collusion between the CDC and FEMA to kill everyone,
6. an explanation of where so many bodies would be buried, and with what equipment,
7. the locations of the 500 or more other stockpiles that must exist to kill and bury the rest of the population,
8. a reason why mass cremations would not be easier, faster, and cheaper than burying everyone in an individual grave and coffin. just the same- why not mass graves with no coffins?
9. an explanation of why coffins would be stockpiled instead of body bags,
10. a reason why only paranoid right-wingers buy into the tale, and no one else believes a word of it;
11. an accompanying statement from a mental health professional that certifies your sanity.
All documents must be certified, signed affidavits from official sources. Get to work, nut-jobs...



(c) james platt  bitterbrainiac.blogspot.com, ask for repost.

3/3/09

PETA SUCKS

I used to think PeTA was the greatest animal rights group ever. They are so huge and powerful. I joined. Soon I discovered that when you let your membership dues lapse they keep sending you stuff anyways for a few more years.

In 2004 they did something so outrageous I stopped all support of them. Their long running campaign against procter & gamble was simply dropped. They let them vivisecting bastards win, and all them years of campaigning against them- the boycotts, the letters, the stickers, all went down the toilet while the CEO of p&g surely had a victory party. I used to put little stickers on every pay phone in town every day that said 'procter and gamble poisons animals'. I still have some. Then the whole thing was dropped, and not because they agreed to stop torturing animals with their products (see the 'get a conscience' link to right). They dropped it to free up resources for a new campaign: McDonald's. It seems they were buying chicken meat from breeders and processors that were mean to the chickens. Imagine that. Why didn't they target the people committing these acts instead of the restaurant chain that bought the final result? It would have worked better, been a lot easier and cheaper, and there would have been plenty of resources left over to continue the p&g campaign. You know: divide and conquer; go after the snake's head, not its tail....

So I was miffed at peta. It also seemed that they were wasting efforts on numerous small campaigns that virtually no one cared about: ..Save the silkworms- they are boiled alive...The Spice Girls wore fur...Don't chain up dogs. Give dogs straw to lay on... Meanwhile, some things seemed to be of little concern to them: vivisection, fur farming, wild trapping, hunting...

Their numerous campaigns, some of which have little interest to most activists even, are too little too late. They cannot stop the silk trade, and not everyone can afford a fence for their dogs. But as large and powerful as they were, I assumed they would help me when I needed some awareness for a local animal related issue. Never assume anything....

I found out that the feds were allowing area cattle ranchers to kill buffaloes within the borders of Yellowstone National Park. This was illegal, immoral, and outrageous. When I emailed peta about it, they replied , quote:


Thank you for contacting PETA. Although we read all mail and will forward messages to the appropriate staffers, because of the volume of mail that we receive, we are unable to respond to all mail personally. The following information and links, however, will likely address any concern that you have regarding wildlife, so please read it carefully.
If you are writing us concerning hunting, please visit http://www.PETA.org/about/faq-wild.asp for answers to frequently asked questions about hunting and http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=53 for our factsheet on the subject. Some animal protection organizations focus specifically on hunting, and you might want to contact one of those groups for more detailed information about efforts to help targeted animals. You can find such groups by searching the web using http://www.google.com or a similar site, but to get you started, one organization that campaigns vigorously against hunting is The Fund for Animals (http://www.fundforanimals.org).
For information about what to do if you’ve seen a wild animal being abused, tips on living in harmony with wildlife, or to learn how to take action to help non-domesticated animals, please visit http://www.HelpingAnimals.com/wildlife.asp. Other links that may also be of help to you:
· Fight the wildlife trade: http://www.WildlifePimps.com
· Fight predator and “nuisance” control: http://www.PETA.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=51 and http://www.hsus.org/ace/13964
· Fight against habitat loss and development: http://www.hsus.org/ace/15631
· Fight the cruelty of fishing: http://www.FishingHurts.com
One of the best ways to combat any anti-wildlife legislation is to send letters explaining your stance to elected officials and leaders of major corporations. For information about current legislation, visit http://www.fund.org. A few other useful pages include:
· PETA’s guide to effective letter-writing: http://www.PETA.org/actioncenter/letter-writing-guide.asp
· How to lobby: http://www.PETA.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=74
· To find your representatives: http://www.congress.org
Also, before deciding whether or not to support a particular “wildlife” or “conservation” group, ask about its position on hunting. The National Wildlife Federation, the National Audubon Society, the Sierra Club, the Izaak Walton League, the Wilderness Society, the World Wildlife Fund, and many others either support sport hunting outright or do not oppose it.
For more ideas about ways to help animals, please visit http://www.PETA.org/actioncenter.
Thanks again for your interest in PETA and in helping animals.
Sincerely,
The PETA Staff



They did not find it worth their time to save buffaloes, so they referred me to anti-hunting groups. Via a form letter. Nice.

One other time I wrote to them about a large man-made lake (Viking Lake in SW Iowa) that was going to be drained for the sole purpose of killing off all the fish in it. This was so the state could restock it. Since peta has an anti-fishing campaign, I told them about this too. This time, no response at all.

Next, I told them about a small town whose mayor had posted a bounty on cats on the town's website. This time I got a real letter in return, quote:

Dear Mr. Platt,
Thank you for contacting us about the feral cats in Randolph, Iowa. We are troubled that local government officials are encouraging people to try to capture these cats on their own, and we recommend that only people trained for this kind of work be allowed to interact with these cats.
As you may know, feral-cat population control is a difficult and emotional issue and has been a topic of heated debate within the animal-protection community for many years. Our past experiences with trap/neuter/return/monitor (TNRM) programs and managed feral-cat colonies have led us to question whether or not these programs are always truly in the cats’ best interests. Time and time again, we have seen the tragic results of incidents in which cats—“managed” or not—suffer and die horrible deaths because they must fend for themselves outdoors. Having witnessed firsthand the gruesome things that can happen to feral cats, we cannot in good conscience oppose euthanasia as a humane option in some circumstances. Please know that this stance is based solely on what we know to be the most humane option for these animals.
Horrific fates await most homeless cats—they do not die of old age. Highly contagious diseases such as rhinotrachitis, feline AIDS, and rabies are common in “outdoor cats.” They sustain puncture wounds, broken bones, brain damage, or lose eyes or limbs after being attacked by other animals or hit by cars. During winter months, it is all too typical for automobile engine fans to slice through the bodies of cats who seek shelter from the cold in engines. If cats miraculously escape these perils, they may still fall prey to agonizing deaths at the hands of cruel people. Our office is flooded with calls about cruelty to animals every day. Across the country, free-roaming cats are mutilated, shot, drowned, poisoned, beaten, set on fire, sacrificed, stolen by bunchers for medical experimentation, or used by dogfighters for target practice or as “bait.”
TNRM advocates argue that feral cats are just as deserving as other felines and that it is our responsibility to alleviate their suffering and ensure their safety—we absolutely agree. It is precisely because we would never encourage people to let their own cats outdoors to roam free that we do not encourage the same for feral cats. We believe that, although altering feral cats prevents the suffering of future generations, it does little to improve the quality of life of the cats who are left outdoors. Allowing feral cats to continue their daily struggle for survival in hostile environments is not usually a humane option.
Nevertheless, PETA’s position has never been that all feral cats should be euthanized. We believe that TNRM programs are acceptable when the cats are (1) isolated from roads and people and other animals who could harm them; (2) constantly attended to by people who not only feed them, but care for their medical needs; (3) located in an area where they do not have contact with wildlife; and (4) located in an area where the weather is temperate. For information on humanely managing a feral cat colony, please visit:
· http://www.HelpingAnimals.com/Factsheet/files/FactsheetDisplay.asp?ID=141
· http://PETALiterature.com/WEL233.pdf
· http://www.HelpingAnimals.com/Factsheet/files/FactsheetDisplay.asp?ID=120
The solution to feral-cat overpopulation obviously lies in prevention. Like everyone who cares about the welfare of animals, PETA would like to see an end to the need for euthanasia, which is why PETA operates a mobile spaying and neutering clinic, the “SNIPmobile,” and performs thousands of low-cost or free sterilization surgeries every year. We provide free spaying and neutering to local TNRM groups, and we vaccinate and give ear treatment to feral cats from managed colonies (please visit http://www.HelpingAnimals.com/about_snip.asp to learn more about SNIP).
We also have campaigns across the country and around the world to educate people about the need to spay and neuter in order to prevent further growth in the numbers of homeless animals. To learn how you can help introduce a spay/neuter ordinance in your area, please visit http://www.HelpingAnimals.com/res_lobbyLeg.asp.
Thanks again for contacting PETA and for your compassion.
Sincerely,
Heidi Parker
Correspondent
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA)
http://www.PETA.org

--end quote--


This was my reply to their letter:

your essay on feral cats was well done. but did you know that pets not wearing collars are not the same thing as feral animals? either you do not know the difference, or you did not check into this matter one bit before lecturing me on the perils of aiding feral cats. this matter had nothing to do with feral cats. a quick look at the randolph home page makes that perfectly clear- their aim was to have people round up other peoples pets that were not wearing collars, and pay them a bounty on them. of course collared cats could also be caught and had their collars simply removed. the mayor does not refer anywhere to wild, diseased, or feral animals. just loose cats out 'to go to the bathroom'.
fortunately, they have announced an end to the bounty- though they have not changed their website- due to many complaints from area citizens and even several animal rights groups. judging by your response, i am sure peta was not one of them.
next time i need help for animals, i will contact the IDA or NHES.




Suffice it to say I am losing respect for them as animal advocates by this time.

At one point they were taking donations of fur coats and giving people a tax write off for it. Donating a valuable item to a charity lowers your tax dues. Plus it gets these disgusting garments off the streets. Good idea. But wait- what did peta do with these coats? I personally would have suggested burning them. They gave them out to homeless people. After painting a red stripe around one sleeve, in order to devalue them. "These are the only people with an excuse for wearing fur- the homeless!," they schreeched. Assuming that the paint could not be dry cleaned off, did it not occur to them that a short sleeved fur coat could be made out of it, or a few stoles, or a cape??? This was probably one of their stupidest publicity stunts. I would love to know how many of those coats are still being worn by homeless people, and how many were sold and cleaned or refitted and worn by rich-bitches right now.

Anymore, all you hear about peta is their monthly publicity stunts, usually involving naked humans. It gets old. There is a rumor on the net that they only spend "less than one percent" of their budget on animal work. This is untrue, but they are making no real effort to refute it. Jumping into that issue would gain them a lot of good publicity. The last linked page makes it clear they are doing a lot of good work for animals, mainly educational. But as far as advocacy and intervention- they suck. Too big I guess, with 800,000 claimed members.

PeTA can be good, but it is for the masses. Doers join smaller, more active groups.

If you want to help animals more directly, I highly recommend these groups instead:

rodeos
vivisection
big cats
law enforcement 




Don't go with the flow to help animals- do what you need to.



(c) james platt